31 F for Fake
- Gordon
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I saw With Orson Welles: Stories from a Life in Film (1988, Leslie Megahey) yesterday via a DVD-R and all I can say is WOW! It's an amazing piece of work, with Welles (from a 1982 interview) appearing immaculately dressed and groomed and overflowing with ebullience and wit, telling some hilarious anecdotes and dispelling many myths. Jeanne Moreau and Anthony Perkins provide some great insights, also and the general style of the piece is delightful, with the film running out during at one point, but the sound still rolling, much to Welles' amusement! He laughs throughout the film and I came away liking the man even more. This is a BBC property, so I would assume that it wouldn't be too difficult to acquire. This is a documentary that simply has to be seen by Welles fans and so it simply has to appear on a Welles DVD at some point.
- What A Disgrace
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- der_Artur
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So the thing seems to be finished, isn't it? I have been just cleaning up and found an old, dusty and noisy tape containing "The one Man Band", "Confidential Report" and two shorts ("Magic Show" and "London"). The shorts are the only things I could not substitute by a DVD... So, will one of them be on your DVD? Especially "London" is nicely entertaining, so I would prefer a decent release over my TV recording.
- NABOB OF NOWHERE
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Specs at Amazon where it's listed for £11.99 -
# DVD Features:
* Main Language: English
* Sub Titles: English
* Restored high definition Criterion transfer
* Commentary by Bill Krohn and Gary Graver
* Optional English subtitles
* Booklet
Since release date is only two weeks away, this might suggest a pretty bare bones affair.
# DVD Features:
* Main Language: English
* Sub Titles: English
* Restored high definition Criterion transfer
* Commentary by Bill Krohn and Gary Graver
* Optional English subtitles
* Booklet
Since release date is only two weeks away, this might suggest a pretty bare bones affair.
- jt
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play.com also lists this as 22/01/07 with only the commentary and booklet as extras.
Nick, is this even still happening? There is a surprising lack of buzz considering how close the release date is (and considering it's Welles). The MoC website doesn't even include a page for it in it's catalogue yet (as it has done for Shoah).
Will there be any other extra's to try and compete with the CC version or is this just for the region-locked crowd?
Nick, is this even still happening? There is a surprising lack of buzz considering how close the release date is (and considering it's Welles). The MoC website doesn't even include a page for it in it's catalogue yet (as it has done for Shoah).
Will there be any other extra's to try and compete with the CC version or is this just for the region-locked crowd?
- NABOB OF NOWHERE
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- Ste
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Amazon are still listing it as a January 22nd release. I have it on order, so we'll see if it turns up.
Peerpee, can you please tell us what is happening with this release? There is still no cover art on the MOC website, while other, later spine numbers are already on the shelves. This should be a major release, but it looks like it will sneak out with very little fanfare, if it comes at all. I'm not complaining, I'd just appreciate an update on the situation. Thank you in advance.
Peerpee, can you please tell us what is happening with this release? There is still no cover art on the MOC website, while other, later spine numbers are already on the shelves. This should be a major release, but it looks like it will sneak out with very little fanfare, if it comes at all. I'm not complaining, I'd just appreciate an update on the situation. Thank you in advance.
- skuhn8
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- lazier than a toad
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F For Fake and specs are back in the catalogue, and appears to be on sale at amazon.co.uk (from the 26th) and play.com (when in stock). 11.99 on the former.
- MichaelB
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I've just watched it (or rather the main feature: I'll tackle the extras tonight).
Anyway, it looks fabulous - well done!
As far as I can make out, it's progressive anamorphic PAL from a pristine source - there's a fair bit of grain in some shots, but that's definitely an unavoidable part of the original, especially as Welles often zooms into existing footage to highlight a particular detail. Because it's sourced from HD, NTSC conversion side-effects aren't an issue. Aspect ratio is 1.66:1, which I believe is correct (it certainly looked fine). I haven't seen the Criterion so can't compare, but presumably it's exactly the same but progressive NTSC.
Anyway, it looks fabulous - well done!
As far as I can make out, it's progressive anamorphic PAL from a pristine source - there's a fair bit of grain in some shots, but that's definitely an unavoidable part of the original, especially as Welles often zooms into existing footage to highlight a particular detail. Because it's sourced from HD, NTSC conversion side-effects aren't an issue. Aspect ratio is 1.66:1, which I believe is correct (it certainly looked fine). I haven't seen the Criterion so can't compare, but presumably it's exactly the same but progressive NTSC.
- MichaelB
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- foggy eyes
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- colinr0380
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And the colour trailer is here, courtesy of peerpee.
- MichaelB
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Agreed, but I suspect it would be so expensive as to make it more or less prohibitive except as a standalone release.Gordon wrote:This is a BBC property, so I would assume that it wouldn't be too difficult to acquire. This is a documentary that simply has to be seen by Welles fans and so it simply has to appear on a Welles DVD at some point.
For starters, the BBC now charges an absolute fortune for licensing its documentaries to other distributors - so much that you now very very rarely see them on non-BBC discs in the UK. And in this case there's a huge number of third-party rights clearances, all of which would have to be negotiated separately with the relevant rightsholders (since the BBC certainly wouldn't have cleared retail rights back in 1982 - they'd have had no motive).
So even if it makes it to DVD at all, it would be something of a miracle if it ended up intact.
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Nice article on Wellesnet by Lawrence French on the sources for the movie with quotes of some of the acid reviews it got in the U.S. at its release:
Truth and Lies about Orson Welles’ F FOR FAKE
Truth and Lies about Orson Welles’ F FOR FAKE
- Will Barks
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- bigP
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Re: 31 F For Fake
Slarek at DVD Outsider wrote:To access the trailer, select the Commentary from the main menu. On the Commentary page click the 'up' button on your remote twice and a large question mark will appear in the bottom right of the screen. Press 'select' and the trailer will run.
- Will Barks
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Re: 31 F For Fake
Thanks, bigP, for the hint!