The Lists Project

An ongoing survey of the Criterion Forum membership to create lists of the best films of each decade and genre.
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Re: The Lists Project

#2176 Post by knives » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:14 pm

Is the Internet still going to be around then?

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Re: The Lists Project

#2177 Post by swo17 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:16 pm

I sure hope not

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#2178 Post by Rayon Vert » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:09 pm

I like the idea of a pause between the 50s and 60s, which gives time to see films from earlier decades that we haven’t had time for or more time to prepare for the upcoming ones.

Or to do other things with life.

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Re: The Lists Project

#2179 Post by DarkImbecile » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:29 pm

Rayon Vert wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:09 pm
Or to do other things with life.
Don't be ridiculous.

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#2180 Post by Tommaso » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:18 pm

I'd definitely cherish to do the 2010s 'just for fun' as early as August 2020. Somehow I think that the 2010s has been one of the best decades for filmmaking since the 1960s, so I'd really love to come to terms with it.

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#2181 Post by Rayon Vert » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:10 am

swo17 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:09 pm
Also, how do people feel about the two-week period for Round 2? Too long? Too short? Just right?
Well I've used that time to catch up on all those supplements from the films I acquired for the project (the keepers anyway) that I didn't have time for during the thing itself just because I had to use all of it to get through as many as possible (I'm quite compulsive about not putting discs away until I've gone through all of the extras), so 2 weeks is very welcome, and a third I wouldn't have a problem with. I even had extras from the biopics list that were still waiting for me! (Three cheers for Woody Allen.)

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Re: The Lists Project

#2182 Post by TMDaines » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:34 am

August 2020 is too early to do 2010s. There will be plenty of 2019 films that will still be trickling out around the world and not yet released in cinema, let alone out on home video. This was part of the argument restricting our first run through of the 2010s to 2014 at the latest. I don’t want to feel obliged to puruse expensive imports or pirate films that are still just making their natural journey.

Do it after the 1960s if people are desperate to do it.

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#2183 Post by knives » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:05 am

Or just take this as a fun exercise and not some definitive statement.

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Re: The Lists Project

#2184 Post by DarkImbecile » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:15 am

TMDaines wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:34 am
August 2020 is too early to do 2010s.
Also, it wouldn’t actually wrap up until mid-2021, which should be plenty of time to take a look at the 2019 releases.

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Re: The Lists Project

#2185 Post by swo17 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:29 am

The timing of the 2010-2014 list had it ending in May of 2016, so 17 months after the period had ended. This proposed schedule has the exact same timing for the 2010s.

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Re: The Lists Project

#2186 Post by TMDaines » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:57 am

Fair enough.

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Re: The Lists Project

#2187 Post by domino harvey » Wed May 29, 2019 3:58 pm

Hey everyone, I realized I overestimated the time needed between the Shakespeare List end date and Horror List Redux start date and thought this might be a good opportunity to do a (very) quick mini-list in between the two. One thing I'd been thinking about that never got put up for a vote is music videos, which with YouTube would make just about any potential title easily watchable by all members in a matter of minutes. What would everyone think about a three week mini-list of 25 submissions/50 on the final list music videos occurring in late September into early October?

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Re: The Lists Project

#2188 Post by swo17 » Wed May 29, 2019 4:00 pm

Not a bad idea

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Re: The Lists Project

#2189 Post by soundchaser » Wed May 29, 2019 4:02 pm

That sounds like a lot of fun, and something I’m sure many here (myself included) could feel comfortable participating in without feeling too much time pressure.

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#2190 Post by domino harvey » Wed May 29, 2019 4:13 pm

I'm also open to it being a 50/100 list too given the much shorter source material, if there's enough interest/belief that members could easily populate a top 50. I think 25 is a better target, though, since it would be less intimidating and require more selection precision

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#2191 Post by zedz » Wed May 29, 2019 8:15 pm

Sounds great to me!

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Re: The Lists Project

#2192 Post by dustybooks » Wed May 29, 2019 9:06 pm

I love this idea and would definitely participate.

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#2193 Post by Rayon Vert » Wed May 29, 2019 9:18 pm

I won't participate in it because I'll still be exclusively focusing on the 40s LP, but I have no problem with it! Sounds fun.

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#2194 Post by BenoitRouilly » Thu May 30, 2019 6:47 am

Interesting idea! I would gladly participate although I haven't a compiled record of my favourite music videos... so I won't have a comprehensive list, only MVs from memory. And since it's a new List Project there is no previous list to pick from or refresh memory. Will it be a secret ballot? Because it would be easier to feed from others's recommendations. I don't know, maybe it's just me feeling dwarfed by the endless array of MVs since Roger Glover...

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Re: The Lists Project

#2195 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 30, 2019 10:19 am

Like all lists, the ballots will be submitted secretly via PM. But I can’t imagine everyone not giving some indication of which videos they think merit inclusion, since posting a YT link to a few minutes of video ensures most of us will be able to see it and consider it before voting

I think there’s clearly some interest here, so I’m gonna go ahead and say this is happening, FYI

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Re: The Lists Project

#2196 Post by denti alligator » Thu May 30, 2019 4:54 pm

A thread of recommendations would be needed. Off the top of my head I can't think of that many I would rank in any list.

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Re: The Lists Project

#2197 Post by soundchaser » Thu May 30, 2019 4:55 pm

I'm already planning to go over the Grammy and MTV VMA nominees one by one, if nobody else wanted to.

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Re: The Lists Project

#2198 Post by zedz » Thu May 30, 2019 6:05 pm

denti alligator wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 4:54 pm
A thread of recommendations would be needed. Off the top of my head I can't think of that many I would rank in any list.
If you can pick up that old DVD of Michel Gondry videos, it's a good place to start. 'Sugar Water', 'Let Forever Be' and 'Come Into My World' are brilliantly executed high-concept experimental films set to pop music. He's a filmmaker that really needs the discipline of tight commissions like these to do his best work.

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Re: The Lists Project

#2199 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 30, 2019 7:51 pm

zedz wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 6:05 pm
denti alligator wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 4:54 pm
A thread of recommendations would be needed. Off the top of my head I can't think of that many I would rank in any list.
If you can pick up that old DVD of Michel Gondry videos, it's a good place to start. 'Sugar Water', 'Let Forever Be' and 'Come Into My World' are brilliantly executed high-concept experimental films set to pop music. He's a filmmaker that really needs the discipline of tight commissions like these to do his best work.
My sketch of my potential list is led by three Gondrys in the top three positions, though only two of them are mentioned in zedz’ post (though I may vote for the other one further down)

We will of course have a thread to collect suggestions, discussion, and links once the list actually starts, so hold onto your enthusiasm and remember to bring it with you in a few months!

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Re: The Lists Project

#2200 Post by colinr0380 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:17 pm

Definitely like the idea of a music video list project. I might be able to participate a bit in this one! I have those "The Works of..." collections as well, so would be able to collaborate with zedz on talking about them (and I also have fond memories of Channel 4's fantastic Mirrorball series from 1999 which preceded it)

And I agree on Michel Gondry working wonderfully in the music video area. Sugar Water and Come Into My World are fantastic, and I hope the other video domino mentions is the Massive Attack one, which seems like a music video version of stylistic conceits used in Cocteau's The Blood of a Poet!

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