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godardslave
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#51 Post by godardslave » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:27 am

Annie Mall wrote:Troll allert, cdnchris.
:shock: I am expressing my honest opinions on the subject at hand.
I was under the impression that this was the general idea of a message board, my dear Annie. :wink:

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#52 Post by toiletduck! » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:46 am

On March 3, 2005, godardslave wrote:if these films didn't contain large breasted women who frequently appear naked and/or in sexual situations, would anyone care about them? or pay attention to them?

Put another way, isn't the work of Meyer simply the classic example of pornography masquerading under the respectable heading of "art"?
On June 8, 2006, godardslave wrote:Russ Meyer is over-rated garbage, by the way. Pornography in respectable form, adopted by the art-house, dont you know?
Evolution at its finest, folks.

I think we are all fully aware of your honest opinions on the subject. If that was the goal, thanks for the reminder, it's easy to forget something on the page before.

If you're looking for discussion on the topic, a little eloquence might be worth looking into. "Russ Meyer is overrated" isn't going to get anything beyond "No, he isn't. Go away."

If you've got a Meyer-specific point, by all means, let's hear it. If your big issue is what constitutes pornography and whether or not it should be respected as an art form, you're quite wrong about this being the relevant thread.

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#53 Post by Lino » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:24 pm

The UK Arrow Meyer discs really are a bittersweet experience. On one hand, you got the movies uncut, uncensored, with fantastic extras on the most important titles and you can even buy 2 at the price of 1 for the earlier ones. However, the prints used are clearly from unrestored A/V elements which really ruins the experience for me. And to top that, you don't have english subs on any of the DVDs.

Now, if there is one director whose films delight in wordplay and verbal titilation (if you pardon the pun), they are Meyer's. I mean, there are really some incredible voice-over narrations, dialogues, monologues, one-liners, you name it, that are simply unforgettable and endlessly quotable. To lose a word or two or worse still, a whole sentence, would be like losing most of the fun in a Meyer movie. His scripts really are up to the excesses of the images being projected in equal terms.

I really hope someone grabs the rights from the Meyer family and starts properly releasing them on R1 land. The R2 DVDs are great but ultimately not satisfactory. Not only that but I'm getting more and more convinced that the japanese DVDs are completely remastered so it's a shame that we're not getting that here too.

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#54 Post by Lino » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:50 pm

Oh, I almost forgot: as of next week, you can buy all the UK Meyer DVDs on one big bra-busting boxset!

http://www.arrowfilms.co.uk/index.php?tle_id=281

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#55 Post by Lino » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:47 am

Not a Russ Meyer film but not that far. Take a look at Pervert, the closest thing you'll ever get of a decent hommage to the kind of filmmaking that was Meyer's trademark (and it doesn't look that bad, either) --

http://www.pervertthemovie.com/

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#56 Post by HerrSchreck » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:06 am

Great splash page. Balloony girl floating & bouncing.. =P~

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#57 Post by Michael » Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:50 pm

I finally saw Beyond the Valley of the Dolls this morning. Since this is my first Russ Meyer experience, I have a question about the whole "moralizing" finale. Is that typical of Russ Meyers films? BtVotD was Meyers first studio film so I keep thinking maybe it was due to the studios pressure or decision to tack on this kind of ending which I think the film can do without. How do other Meyer films compare to BtVotD? I was struck by the films gorgeous editing style that still feels new today.

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#58 Post by Barmy » Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:24 pm

The ending is the funniest part! The bit where the guy is gingerly crossing the stream on crutches is a riot.

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#59 Post by Cobalt60 » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:16 pm

does anyone know of a cheap place to pick up that box set?

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#60 Post by Lino » Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:49 pm

Cobalt60 wrote:does anyone know of a cheap place to pick up that box set?
You could always wait a few months and get it cheaper. That's what I usually do for most DVDs.

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#61 Post by Lino » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:19 am

Michael wrote:I finally saw Beyond the Valley of the Dolls this morning. Since this is my first Russ Meyer experience, I have a question about the whole "moralizing" finale. Is that typical of Russ Meyers films?
According to the extensive extras on the DVD, the whole intention of BTVOTD was to satirize the way american movies were made, so I guess the moralizing tone of the finale was what they were after. Think Friday 13th: every character that sins/has sex has to die. But let's not forget the most important thing here -- Meyer is not preaching morals in his films, he is deconstructing our pre-conceived notions of what is wrong or right. He always commented about society in general using satire and that's why his films always worked on two main levels: intelectually and visually (estimulating both to varying degrees... :wink: ).

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#62 Post by Cobalt60 » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:43 pm

Myra Breckinridge wrote:
Cobalt60 wrote:does anyone know of a cheap place to pick up that box set?
You could always wait a few months and get it cheaper. That's what I usually do for most DVDs.
Yeah, me too. However, I've seen it on Ebay for $125 plus like $40 to ship. Anyone know where to get it cheaper? Or the cheapest place to get the individual discs?

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#63 Post by Lino » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:06 am

Well, well, well... what do you know? TCM is playing Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! on October, 20th...!

http://tcmdb.com/TCMDB/title/title.jsp?stid=74621

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#64 Post by patrick » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:01 pm

It's a shame that no one seems to be trying to do these films right in any region. I've considered buying the Arrow editions, but I can never bring myself to actually do it because of my hope for better editions down the road. The R1 DVDs are one of the biggest ripoffs ever foisted on the moviebuying public, $40 for barebones discs that are straight transfers from VHS/laserdisc. I guess whoever owns Russ Meyer Films nowadays figures that it's not worth upgrading the quality if people are still shelling out their money.

Not that it would ever happen, but the second- and third-tier Meyer films would make great Eclipse boxsets.

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#65 Post by ouatitw » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:46 pm

I have been somewhat disappointed on the quality of the Arrow disks and would love some decent transfers of these great films. The Arrow disks are better than nothing, especially when Amazon.uk ocassionally puts them on sale for around £5.

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#66 Post by zombeaner » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:39 pm

The Arrow discs are all on sale at BlahDVD for less than 8,00. I have two more to purchase. I started collecting them before they announced a complete set, so I have the Vixens box set.

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#67 Post by rumz » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:08 pm

Bump -- anyone have any suggestions as to how one may, if not obtain a copy of, see "The Seven Minutes"?

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#68 Post by zombeaner » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:21 pm

I don't know who holds the rights to Fanny Hill, but for completions sake, we need The Seven Minutes and Fanny Hill. Apparently the really early stuff is all lost.

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#69 Post by Barmy » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:22 pm

Seven Minutes shouldn't be too hard to find on (crappy) bootleg. Maybe ioffer. The first half is great, including some dizzying editing, but then it gets a bit bogged down in the courtroom.

EDIT: you might be able to get it at www.subcin.com
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#70 Post by Barmy » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:38 am

It's definitely an underrated film (by Meyer himself, among others), and the only proof that RM could make a good "straight" film. It stands up a bit better than most of his post-Vixen work.

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Re: Russ Meyer

#71 Post by Westwood » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:28 am

Can someone post a link to this Japanese set of Meyer movies that has been mentioned here? The Arrow set is on sale in the uk and before I go for that I'd like to make an informed decision. Are the Japs remastered and better? Etc etc :)

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Re: Russ Meyer

#72 Post by manicsounds » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:25 am


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Re: Russ Meyer

#73 Post by Westwood » Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:31 am

Thank you manicsounds, I assume that the quasi-complete collection is divived into those 3-goodlooking box sets?
Unbelievably overpriced lol! Are they in pristine and uncut conditions at least?

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Re: Russ Meyer

#74 Post by zombeaner » Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:26 am

Westwood wrote:
Thank you manicsounds, I assume that the quasi-complete collection is divived into those 3-goodlooking box sets?
Unbelievably overpriced lol! Are they in pristine and uncut conditions at least?
I would imagine they are cut since Meyer was not afraid to show pubic hair.

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Re: Russ Meyer

#75 Post by Westwood » Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:32 am

zombeaner wrote:
Westwood wrote:
Thank you manicsounds, I assume that the quasi-complete collection is divived into those 3-goodlooking box sets?
Unbelievably overpriced lol! Are they in pristine and uncut conditions at least?
I would imagine they are cut since Meyer was not afraid to show pubic hair.
At first I had a good laugh, then I realized you might mean that showing pubic hair in Japan is a total no-no and so these would probably be cut?

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