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 Post subject: Re: The X Files
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:43 am 
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I always felt Fringe had the opposite problem of The X-Files. The ongoing storyline was compelling and I wanted it to get back to that during the stand alones, which I found mostly underwhelming.


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 Post subject: Re: The X Files
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:09 am 
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I disagree. Indeed, that's what I love most about Fringe before it started focusing more heavily on its overarching mythology. It's hard for me to watch the X Files now as an adult, as I've grown out of being Fox Mulder and am firmly in the Scully camp (or rather, far past her in the cynic direction). Yet the show doesn't really play it fair, and I'm constantly expected to side with Mulder on the most ridiculous of notions, and accept all manner of silly things. I get that it's part of the show's internal logic, but it no longer works for me. However, Fringe built in defenses to these kind of problems, with each menace the team faced in the first season a direct result of something Walter did in the past, and subsequent "scientific" explanations for every bizarre encounter. Eventually the show branches out, but never in a direction in which my suspension of disbelief was in peril.


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 Post subject: Re: The X Files
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:53 am 
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domino harvey wrote:
I disagree. Indeed, that's what I love most about Fringe before it started focusing more heavily on its overarching mythology. It's hard for me to watch the X Files now as an adult, as I've grown out of being Fox Mulder and am firmly in the Scully camp (or rather, far past her in the cynic direction). Yet the show doesn't really play it fair, and I'm constantly expected to side with Mulder on the most ridiculous of notions, and accept all manner of silly things. I get that it's part of the show's internal logic, but it no longer works for me. However, Fringe built in defenses to these kind of problems, with each menace the team faced in the first season a direct result of something Walter did in the past, and subsequent "scientific" explanations for every bizarre encounter. Eventually the show branches out, but never in a direction in which my suspension of disbelief was in peril.


I should agree with that as I've always been a Scully, but Fringe still never gripped me the way The X-Files did at the time. Fringe may have been a more sophisticated update of the formula but maybe by that point I'd simply grown out supernatural procedurals. Just as with The Omen or The Exorcist I had to accept that heaven and hell are for real, I had to suspend my disbelief for the upside down universe of The X-Files where every crazy theory of Mulder's turned out to be real. If I now find it more difficult to sit through The X-Files, it's because after the many shows of the "new golden age" of TV drama it now looks creaky. That's not counting the odd Darin Morgan episode, which always are genius. Why didn't they just let him write the whole season !


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 Post subject: Re: The X Files
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:02 am 
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On your last point we can most definitely agree! Did anyone watch Tower Prep, Those Who Kill, or Intruders? Can't say any sound like something I want to sit through just to see Darin Morgan's episodes, especially since I don't believe any he wrote for those series are freestanding


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 Post subject: Re: The X Files
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:39 pm 
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I’m curious to see The Intruders for it being an adaptation of my one of my favourite author’s novels (Michael Marshall (Smith)), but so far that curiosity hasn’t led to hunting it down. Sorry.

As for the whole X-Files vs Fringe discussion, I easily side with the former. It started showing when I was in my late teens, so I guess there’s a nostalgia factor; but I’ve always enjoyed the Mulder/Scully/Skinner(/Doggett) dynamic far more than what the heavily CSI-influenced Fringe provided. Even though by the time the season after the first X-Files film began airing showed that the overarching conspiracy storyline was never going to be resolved, I still found it ultimately more memorable than Fringe. For me the whole hard-edged style full of, on the whole, grating characters, made it hard to become attached to it. It’s main throughline showed real promise but it eventually seemed to collapse under the weight of itself, with the resolution being, for me, quite underwhelming.

With that said, I wouldn’t say Fringe outstayed its welcome, unlike The X-Files from season 9 onwards. I’m not surprised Gillian Anderson announced the current one to be her last; she’s been working on far more interesting & challenging things of late.


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