Awards Season 2019

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Finch
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Re: Awards Season 2019

#776 Post by Finch » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:40 am

Liked Pitt's reference to the sham trial.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#777 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:42 am

Finch wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:35 am
All the praise for Bong Joon Ho and Parasite winning Best Picture and Best International Picture makes me wonder if I missed something when I saw the film and ended up not liking it by a substantial margin compared to his other films of which I love Mother, Memories of Murder and The Host. Perhaps they'll give Tarantino a Lifetime Achievement Oscar.
I’m mostly with you, I liked it but don’t get the obsession. Still, so much better than the alternative and a really inspiring thing to see, especially breaking ground for the ceremony and giving some hope to the voting methods

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#778 Post by Finch » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:45 am

Believe me, I'm grateful 1917 got locked out. The only thing annoying me is Parasite getting both oscars for best and best international picture when they could (and IMO should) have given best international to Pain & Glory.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#779 Post by DarkImbecile » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:47 am

I think I won? Somebody point out my errors and disabuse me of this notion:

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#780 Post by Apperson » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:50 am

Shit I thought I was doing really poorly but 18/24 and a non-winning tie? I'm happy with that.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#781 Post by swo17 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:57 am

Finch wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:45 am
Believe me, I'm grateful 1917 got locked out. The only thing annoying me is Parasite getting both oscars for best and best international picture when they could (and IMO should) have given best international to Pain & Glory.
They should make a new rule where if a foreign or animated film takes both best picture and the other category, the 2nd place film wins the other category

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#782 Post by Parasite » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:59 am

HJackson wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:35 am
Parasite wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:32 am
I'm so happy for Bong Joon Ho!
Congratulations on your big night!
Thank you, what a year for film!

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#783 Post by Nasir007 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:59 am

swo17 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:57 am
Finch wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:45 am
Believe me, I'm grateful 1917 got locked out. The only thing annoying me is Parasite getting both oscars for best and best international picture when they could (and IMO should) have given best international to Pain & Glory.
They should make a new rule where if a foreign or animated film takes both best picture and the other category, the 2nd place film wins the other category
They can't do that right? It would let the cat out of the bag.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#784 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:01 am

Finch wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:45 am
Believe me, I'm grateful 1917 got locked out. The only thing annoying me is Parasite getting both oscars for best and best international picture when they could (and IMO should) have given best international to Pain & Glory.
I’m in full agreement on Almodovar winning there

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#785 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:03 am

DarkImbecile wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:47 am
I think I won? Somebody point out my errors and disabuse me of this notion:

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I believe you’re correct - congrats! So how long are you giving us to watch La flor?

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#786 Post by tenia » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:40 am

Nasir007 wrote:
swo17 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:57 am
Finch wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:45 am
Believe me, I'm grateful 1917 got locked out. The only thing annoying me is Parasite getting both oscars for best and best international picture when they could (and IMO should) have given best international to Pain & Glory.
They should make a new rule where if a foreign or animated film takes both best picture and the other category, the 2nd place film wins the other category
They can't do that right? It would let the cat out of the bag.
That's pretty much what happens at Cannes every year and it's actually a fun guessing game to play. I'd be all for it anyway, it seems a bit superfluous for a movie to win both BP and Foreign BP, as if there were 9 movies nominated but really, it's all about this one.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#787 Post by swo17 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:44 am

If the Almodóvar had won Best Foreign this year, it could have just as easily been an upset as a tell

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#788 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:50 am

domino harvey wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:40 am
Among the records set by Parasite tonight, Bong now ties Walt Disney with most Oscar wins in a single ceremony (4)
Parasite is also the first Palme winner since Marty to win Best Picture at the Oscars

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#789 Post by swo17 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:53 am

I can't decide if it's more impressive that Bong won four for one film or that Disney won four for four!

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#790 Post by Nasir007 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:55 am

tenia wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:40 am
Nasir007 wrote:
swo17 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:57 am

They should make a new rule where if a foreign or animated film takes both best picture and the other category, the 2nd place film wins the other category
They can't do that right? It would let the cat out of the bag.
That's pretty much what happens at Cannes every year and it's actually a fun guessing game to play. I'd be all for it anyway, it seems a bit superfluous for a movie to win both BP and Foreign BP, as if there were 9 movies nominated but really, it's all about this one.
Entirely different ball game. There's no campaign at Cannes. It is 9 people. With lots of horse trading during deliberations. Very compressed time frame. Basically 24 hours after films finish screening you have the awards.

Oscars is far long and much more regimented.

I see zero problem in the same film winning Best International Film and Best Film.

My dream would actually be the elimination of Best International Film when foreign language films become the routine rather than the exception in the Best Film category.

Still major kudos to the Academy for taking the plunge this year. This should get them enormous PR boost.

PS: Isn't there some debate about whether Bong won 4? I think he won 3, no? South Korea won the Best International Film oscar which Bong accepted on the country's behalf.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#791 Post by swo17 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:02 am

I don't have a problem with it winning both either, it's just that best picture makes best foreign redundant. It's cool that it helped Bong get to four, and it'll make for an easy Trivial Pursuit question some day, but otherwise it's a completely meaningless win now

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#792 Post by thirtyframesasecond » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:37 am

mfunk9786 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:50 am
domino harvey wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:40 am
Among the records set by Parasite tonight, Bong now ties Walt Disney with most Oscar wins in a single ceremony (4)
Parasite is also the first Palme winner since Marty to win Best Picture at the Oscars
You know, I was wondering that myself since the 70s and 90s US winners of the Palme D'Ors didn't win BP (and the Artist didn't win the Palme either).

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#793 Post by swo17 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:54 am

Palmes d'or?

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#794 Post by movielocke » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:12 am

domino harvey wrote:Among the records set by Parasite tonight, Bong now ties Walt Disney with most Oscar wins in a single ceremony (4)
Huh. Did Disney win four in one year for a couple (three?) shorts and music categories

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#795 Post by domino harvey » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:15 am

1953: Cartoon, Documentary Feature, Documentary Short, Two-Reeler Short

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#796 Post by Altair » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:46 am

Late to the game, but Bong's speech for Best Director was one of the classiest things I've seen in a while.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#797 Post by tenia » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:48 am


swo17 wrote:I don't have a problem with it winning both either, it's just that best picture makes best foreign redundant. It's cool that it helped Bong get to four, and it'll make for an easy Trivial Pursuit question some day, but otherwise it's a completely meaningless win now
That's what I meant.


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Re: Awards Season 2019

#798 Post by cpetrizzi » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:00 am

thirtyframesasecond wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:19 pm
What do we think the odds are on Parasite winning BP?
100%.

Honesty, I had 1917 winning BP and director (my "who would win" not "who should win") and was clearly wrong. I'd love to be privvy to the actual distribution of votes and whether Parasite received the majority of 1st place votes or just a plethora of 2nd place ones.

Kudos to the Academy for finally recognizing a “foreign/international film” as BP. My wife and I were a bit saddened to see that Parasite took this honor as the first movie to ever do so, but I guess we ignorant US Americans can find out what a "subtitle" is now that it's 2020.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#799 Post by cpetrizzi » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:22 am

FYI, I'm not trying to provide a revisionist's history, half of my comments are clearly jokes. That being said, I wish I were aware of this thread earlier (I've been away from the forum for a while) since I love guesswork and doing polls. Also, my "who should win" BP was Parasite simply because I think it was the best movie out of the 9 nominees. There's no denying Bong's technical movie-making process. However, there were better movies from 2019, namely Uncut Gems, Pain and Glory, etc.

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Re: Awards Season 2019

#800 Post by cpetrizzi » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:39 am

I'm clearly inept since my daughter is still chastising me for not getting "Animated Feature" right.

(BTW, I hate it when someone double....um, triple posts.)

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