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Calvin
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#7726 Post by Calvin » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:30 am


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#7727 Post by bearcuborg » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:58 am

He’s definitely gonna be one of those guys people didn’t know was still alive, but damn-he was a huge talent, and certainly under appreciated. Best wishes for Elaine May...

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#7728 Post by FrauBlucher » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:28 am

You're exactly right. I said that to myself when I heard he passed.

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#7729 Post by FrauBlucher » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:33 am


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#7730 Post by colinr0380 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:14 am

Calvin wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:30 am
Stanley Donen
Whilst Donen is of course being remembered mostly for the wonderful Singin' In The Rain and Charade, I will also forever be grateful for the wonderfully bizarre and uncharacteristic Saturn 3. It of course bears no comparison to the previous year's Alien (though even modern sci-fi films have trouble with that comparison!) but it is a real gift for anyone who loves people running down sci-fi corridors, molesting robots and Harvey Keitel being a baddie!

Donen is also the wonderful, more down to earth and pragmatic voice that Mark Cousins uses in the middle portion of his Story of Film: An Odyssey series to almost respond to some of Cousins' bigger flights of fancy, before Paul Schrader seemingly takes over that similar counterpointing role from episode 7 onward.

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#7731 Post by colinr0380 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:58 am

Literary scholar Donald Keene at 96, who translated works of many Japanese authors into English. He appears in an interview talking about translation issues in the Arena documentary on Yukio Mishima which is on the Criterion edition of the Paul Schrader film.

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#7732 Post by Feego » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:32 pm


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#7733 Post by swo17 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:35 pm

Mark Hollis discussion moved here


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#7735 Post by Dylan » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:26 pm


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#7738 Post by GaryC » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:06 am

Australian actor Paul Blackwell, aged 64.

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#7739 Post by Jonathan S » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:09 am

Buttery Jeb wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:55 pm
Andre Previn
Even back in the 1970s, when Previn still seemed quite young and the BBC poster-boy for classical orchestral music, I remember being amazed to discover that he'd been a wunderkind in the MGM music department as far back as the 1940s. He worked in various cinematic (and musical) genres including of course several of the best 1950s MGM musicals such as Silk Stockings and the Donen/Kelly It's Always Fair Weather.

Previn's LSO recordings of the 1970s still enjoy a high reputation (partly thanks to the great EMI engineers Bishop & Parker) and it's a pity that in the UK he now seems to be mainly remembered for his sketches with the comedy team Morecambe & Wise, whose "national treasure" status has baffled me for half-a-century.

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#7740 Post by MichaelB » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:27 am

And his "best picture of all time" Ferguson TV ads, of course.

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#7741 Post by Dr Amicus » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:20 am

Previn's jazz albums are worth your time as well, his West Side Story album is a favourite of mine and can be conveniently (and cheaply) found on on this collection.

But I have found that the only time many friends know who I'm talking about is when I say "I am playing all the right notes, just not necessarily in the right order" - and indeed a still of Eric Morecambe and Andre Previn from that sketch is on the front page of The Times today.

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#7742 Post by MichaelB » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:41 am

It's a very similar situation to that which the late Bruno Ganz was faced with: whether he liked it or not, sheer weight of numbers dictated that 99% of people would regard him as the guy from the Downfall meme rather than one of the greatest German-speaking actors of the last century.

(Indeed, for me, Downfall was worth taking seriously from the moment that Ganz's participation was announced, as I couldn't imagine an actor of that calibre taking on a role as politically/cuturally loaded as that - at least in Germany - without a fundamental respect for the quality of the script and the integrity of his collaborators.)

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#7744 Post by MichaelB » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:08 pm

French producing legend Mag Bodard, at the age of 103.

She'd deserve a place among the immortals merely for getting The Umbrellas of Cherbourg off the ground when everyone else thought that it was a hopelessly uncommercial folly, but she also produced major work by Agnès Varda, Robert Bresson, Maurice Pialat and many others.

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#7748 Post by colinr0380 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:10 pm

That is very upsetting news. Of course his front and centre presence on the Firestarter track and video is his major work (and it was interesting to find out that he started out as a dancer hired to amp the crowd up, a bit like a more aggressive Bez from the Happy Mondays, before he started writing some tracks as well), but aside from that I was not following The Prodigy too closely until the last two albums, which I really like. In some ways I bracket 2015's The Day Is My Enemy with Mad Max: Fury Road (it might just be because the album was the perfect accompaniment to driving around the open world in the Mad Max video game) as kind of post-apocalyptic punk. Nasty, Rebel Radio and Invisible Sun stand out amongst the tracks featuring his vocals.

And then 2018's No Tourists (released just last November) feels like an incredibly angry album from beginning to end, although a lot of the cathartic rebel yell nature of songs such as the title track, Champions of London and Give Me A Signal are inevitably going to have a different feel to them now.

I think my favourite Prodigy anecdote has to be when Charlotte Coleman, who appears in Four Weddings and a Funeral (NSFW: Language!) did a late night ITV show in the late 90s where she picked some of her favourite music tracks and chose Firestarter, saying something along the lines of "I used to really annoy Hugh Grant by playing this over and over at full volume in the makeup trailer!"
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#7749 Post by bearcuborg » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:37 pm

Wow, that’s great stuff colinr0380, thanks for taking the time to post all of that...

I just learned that Vinny Vella passed away. Always a welcome site in any mob movie, particularly Casino.

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#7750 Post by hearthesilence » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:23 pm

bearcuborg wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:37 pm
I just learned that Vinny Vella passed away. Always a welcome site in any mob movie, particularly Casino.
Vinny was also in Coffee and Cigarettes, which is actually my favorite of Jim Jarmusch's multi-story films.

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