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#4026 Post by Jack Kubrick » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:06 pm

An very online apologist for communist regimes. She literally quotes Mao Zedong without any trance of irony in her bio.

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#4027 Post by Michael Kerpan » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:11 pm

Not a term I'd think of in connection with such a sort of person... ;-)

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#4028 Post by yoshimori » Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:29 am

I never quote Mao unironically, but, just to be clear, is she not right about the film? Just asking.

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#4029 Post by Mr Sausage » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:28 am

yoshimori wrote:
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I never quote Mao unironically, but, just to be clear, is she not right about the film? Just asking.
What do you think she gets right? On the last line alone, she is deliberately misleading: two male characters are also killed, making it symmetrical. Not that characters dying at the end could possibly make anyone props in a sexist drama because, you know, once the climax ends the drama is pretty well over. Props in two minutes of male coda drama? Whatever.

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#4030 Post by yoshimori » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:28 pm

Seems like it might be possible to sympathize with, if not all the details of her presentation, at least her basic thrust: that the protagonist family (and the filmmaker) are ultimately 'bootlickers' in that they fail to adequately call out the structural deficiencies of the social system in which they find themselves.

This was not my main problem with the film -- there's something about Bong's work post-Memories that overwhelms me with a feeling of (his/its) falseness, a feeling that the films are ... not so much desperate pleas to be taken seriously, but more 'self-congratulations', prizes Bong gives to himself for being such an insightful genius -- but it doesn't seem like an illegitimate response to it.

I also thought the 'jokes' about North Korea were tired and forced and unfunny and reasonably labeled 'chauvinistic'. That's a minor point, perhaps, though I can understand how she understands that failed humor as a symptom of the major one.

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#4031 Post by DarkImbecile » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:50 pm

Since when does having characters "call out" their social critiques make for good storytelling? And by what yardstick are you judging whether Bong has been "adequately" explicit in his criticism?

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#4032 Post by yoshimori » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:52 pm

DarkImbecile wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:50 pm
Since when does having characters "call out" their social critiques make for good storytelling?
Never said it did. Nor would anyone, I suspect.
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And by what yardstick are you judging whether Bong has been "adequately" explicit in his criticism?
None. But I did get a glimpse at her yardstick which, though not particularly well-decorated, seemed to me to measure something.

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#4033 Post by DarkImbecile » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:57 pm

So, you think it might be possible that someone out there could sympathize with the idea that the characters and director are insufficiently explicit in their social criticism, but at the same time you suspect that no one would think that doing so would make for good storytelling. Accurate?

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#4034 Post by Michael Kerpan » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:44 pm

I would say that any "social criticism" in this film is almost totally uninsightful and poorly focused (but won't venture a guess at Bong's sincerity).

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#4035 Post by Franc Zaic » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:21 pm

Criterion is *owned* by disney (why do you think every single insufferable thing made by wes anderson is part of the Criterion Collection? w anderson is a very rich trust fund baby with relatives/friends in serious positions of power within disney). I doubt there’ll ever be a Criterion release of ['A Hidden Life']. disney has no respect at all for Malick nor for the film.

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#4036 Post by mfunk9786 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:30 am

Wes Anderson is a 50 year old man with his own fruitful career, at what point are you no longer a "trust fund baby"

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#4037 Post by Brian C » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:02 am

In that writer’s defense, “trust fund middle-aged man” seems even more demeaning to Anderson.
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#4038 Post by domino harvey » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:04 am

u know how old man go with trust funding

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#4039 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:01 pm

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#4040 Post by Jack Kubrick » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:05 pm

She said similar shit about PTA a couple of months back, with the classic straw man of people only pretending to "like" his movies.

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#4041 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:07 pm

I really didn't need to read that, but to counter my anger at this person's existence and voice being heard, at least it's one of those "man I'm glad I'm 'me'" moments

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#4042 Post by soundchaser » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:10 pm

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#4043 Post by swo17 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:11 pm

OK mfunk but you really should watch at least Boy before you write Waititi off completely

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#4044 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:12 pm

soundchaser wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:10 pm
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Too kind.
swo17 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:11 pm
OK mfunk but you really should watch at least Boy before you write Waititi off completely
Sure! I'm not opposed to coming around on just about anybody but that's besides the point here.

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#4045 Post by soundchaser » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:15 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:12 pm
Too kind.
I don't actually love Wilson, but the moment immediately popped into my head. All of which is to say Moonrise Kingdom has infinitely more nuance and depth to its characters than Jojo Rabbit does.

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#4046 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:20 pm

She goes on to explain that she fell asleep during The Grand Budapest Hotel, which she tried to watch on a plane. Not sure why someone being an out & out insincere troll is treated as any kind of cultural critic, but there ya go, a half a million followers later and suddenly your opinion matters to people

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#4047 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:24 pm

Maybe people just support her plea to get rid of Nazis

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#4048 Post by swo17 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:26 pm

I can see some similarity between the two directors. Anderson means a lot more to me, and some of Waititi's comedies certainly aren't even aiming for nuance and character, but I think his New Zealand-set films are at least working in that same space. Granted, I haven't seen Jojo Rabbit yet, and don't know if that might prompt me to retroactively hate him

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#4049 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:33 pm

I agree with that, and I did see Jojo Rabbit and thought it was the worst of his films by a margin, though the "substance" and "character" assignments should still be reversed in that Twitter convo despite my appreciation for aspects of those NZ films

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#4050 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:35 pm

Re: writing Waititi off completely - he should probably stop trying to ape Wes Anderson and Robert Yeoman's body of work so flagrantly if he doesn't want to develop his quickly growing reputation as "Wes Anderson for idiots," which is how I saw it put earlier today in reference to the above tweets

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