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Gregory
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Re: Lost Films

#452 Post by Gregory » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:38 am

This article, Pathanwadi in suburban Mumbai — the place where films go to die, contains these sobering stats:
About 1,700 silent films were made in India of which the National Film Archive of India has only 5 to 6 complete films and about 20-25 films in fragments. The film industry in Madras made 124 films and 38 documentaries in the silent era. Only one film survives. By 1950, India had lost 70-80 per cent of its films.

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Re: Lost Films

#453 Post by Stefan Andersson » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:06 pm

I guess this is a semi-lost film -- Morris Engel´s final feature, never theatrically released, I Need A Ride to California (1968):
https://www.moma.org/calendar/events/5847

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L.A.
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Re: Lost Films

#454 Post by L.A. » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:15 am

Negatives of a lost Somali film The Somali Dervish (1985) found in the National Film Archive of India.

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Re: Lost Films

#455 Post by aox » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:13 pm

L.A. wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:15 am
Negatives of a lost Somali film The Somali Dervish (1985) found in the National Film Archive of India.
That's exciting. Has anyone seen it or know anything more about it? How is it? I can't find much on it other than the article and the Wiki page.

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#456 Post by Stefan Andersson » Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:27 pm

Lost director´s ending of Phase IV (Saul Bass, 1974) re-found; apparently restored:
https://www.the-medium-is-not-enough.co ... ending.php

Viewable on iTune:
https://tv.apple.com/lu/movie/phase-iv/ ... 9taaxhjgv9

Lost ending announced as an extra on a forthcoming French Blu (Carlotta Films), featuring a "new restored HD master"), two editions:
Collector´s Edition:
https://www.amazon.fr/Phase-Édition-Cof ... 168&sr=1-1

Regular:
https://www.amazon.fr/Phase-IV-Blu-Ray- ... 412&sr=1-1

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The Elegant Dandy Fop
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Re: Lost Films

#457 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:44 pm

I saw that lost ending at its first public screening since it played for preview audiences. This was in 2012, so I’m surprised its taken this long to appear on home video. It was his estate that found it and wanted to play it.

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Saturnome
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Re: Lost Films

#458 Post by Saturnome » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:39 am

The ending of Larry Semon's feature film Stop, Look and Listen (1926) was found in Tokyo (where barely any silent film survive at all, that's impressive!)
Article
YouTube
Great chase at the end, with some train action.

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Lemdog
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Re: Lost Films

#459 Post by Lemdog » Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:42 pm

The Chicago Film Archives posted this on twitter - CFA is excited to announce that a complete 35mm print of lost silent feature film The First Degree (1923) has been rediscovered in our collection. Directed by Edward Sedgwick and produced by Universal, The First Degree is a rural melodrama starring Frank Mayo. More info soon!

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Re: Lost Films

#460 Post by DeprongMori » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:16 pm

A bit more information on the re-discovery of the lost film The First Degree

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Re: Lost Films

#461 Post by Stefan Andersson » Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:48 am


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Lemdog
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Re: Lost Films

#462 Post by Lemdog » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:37 am

https://twitter.com/classicfilmgeek/sta ... 9720040448

Reel 6 of The First Kiss (1928) may have been found.

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Re: Lost Films

#463 Post by Stefan Andersson » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:08 pm

Missing gallows sequence from Stan Laurel film "Detained" (1924) found in a film archive:
http://friesfilmarchief.nl/nieuws/frisi ... ined-1924/
(Scroll down to see the whole film, restored. This copy includes other scenes missing from other copies, and seems to be the only known complete copy)

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#464 Post by Saturnome » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:32 pm

There's a "Laurel OR Hardy" DVD by Lobster Films in France which include this film, and there's been a hint that it may become a US Blu-ray release at some point.

As for The First Kiss reel, I'll wait until we know exactly what's inside !

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Re: Lost Films

#465 Post by Stefan Andersson » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:33 pm

Saturnome wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:32 pm
There's a "Laurel OR Hardy" DVD by Lobster Films in France which include this film, and there's been a hint that it may become a US Blu-ray release at some point.
The article linked to above says this about the Lobster Films DVD and the print of Detained on it:
"Several years ago Lobster published a DVD box set with the Stan Laurel solo films. Detained is included in it but without the recently discovered sequences."

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Re: Lost Films

#466 Post by Stefan Andersson » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:36 pm

Post deleted, moved to Recent Film Restorations thread

Mods: hope it´s OK to move a post like this!
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Re: Lost Films

#467 Post by Saturnome » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:55 pm

Stefan Andersson wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:33 pm
Saturnome wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:32 pm
There's a "Laurel OR Hardy" DVD by Lobster Films in France which include this film, and there's been a hint that it may become a US Blu-ray release at some point.
The article linked to above says this about the Lobster Films DVD and the print of Detained on it:
"Several years ago Lobster published a DVD box set with the Stan Laurel solo films. Detained is included in it but without the recently discovered sequences."
The DVD I'm referring to is this one which include the 2020 restoration of Detained and other films.

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Re: Lost Films

#468 Post by Stefan Andersson » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:02 pm

Saturnome wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:55 pm
Stefan Andersson wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:33 pm
Saturnome wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:32 pm
There's a "Laurel OR Hardy" DVD by Lobster Films in France which include this film, and there's been a hint that it may become a US Blu-ray release at some point.
The article linked to above says this about the Lobster Films DVD and the print of Detained on it:
"Several years ago Lobster published a DVD box set with the Stan Laurel solo films. Detained is included in it but without the recently discovered sequences."
The DVD I'm referring to is this one which include the 2020 restoration of Detained and other films.
Hello Saturnome!

Thank you very much indeed for this update!

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Re: Lost Films

#469 Post by Saturnome » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:44 am

Lemdog wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:37 am
https://twitter.com/classicfilmgeek/sta ... 9720040448

Reel 6 of The First Kiss (1928) may have been found.
The can was empty 🙃

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whaleallright
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Re: Lost Films

#470 Post by whaleallright » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:45 pm

Who holds an empty film cannister and thinks there's a full reel of film in it?

My friends, I think we've been punk'd.

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HinkyDinkyTruesmith
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#471 Post by HinkyDinkyTruesmith » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:52 pm

She wasn't in possession of the canister at the time she reported it.

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#472 Post by DeprongMori » Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:35 pm

Saturnome wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:44 am
Lemdog wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:37 am
https://twitter.com/classicfilmgeek/sta ... 9720040448

Reel 6 of The First Kiss (1928) may have been found.
The can was empty 🙃
It wasn’t empty. It contained rare documentary footage of the inside of Al Capone’s vault.

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whaleallright
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Re: Lost Films

#473 Post by whaleallright » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:55 pm

HinkyDinkyTruesmith wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:52 pm
She wasn't in possession of the canister at the time she reported it.
Somebody was, though.

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Re: Lost Films

#474 Post by Stefan Andersson » Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:38 pm

Several reels of WB´s "The Gold Diggers" (1923) found in the UK. Info and link to YouTube upload:
https://www.nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31755

Note: YT upload features heavy image flutter. Upload seems to show a print being projected. A YT comment mentions an out-of-sync projector shutter.

Update -- relevant quote from the Nitrateville thread:
"the video I have uploaded was done by projecting the nitrate using my 1906 cinematograph onto a screen and positioning a camera to capture it, so apologies for the loss of quality. Similarly, there is a bit of shutter ghosting on some sections, which is due to the shutter on my projector. The jumpiness is also due to the nature of my machine's mechanism. To be clear, the film print itself is in near perfect condition, and any quality issues are on my end."
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soundchaser
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Re: Lost Films

#475 Post by soundchaser » Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:46 pm

Wouldn’t be surprised if the shutter were the issue — it’s hard to line up camera and projector shutters even at the best of times, unless you’re using a five-bladed telecine projector.

Still, a very exciting find! And nice to see Bill Morrison in the comments giving a little advice.

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