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- DarkImbecile
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Since when does having characters "call out" their social critiques make for good storytelling? And by what yardstick are you judging whether Bong has been "adequately" explicit in his criticism?
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Never said it did. Nor would anyone, I suspect.DarkImbecile wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:50 pmSince when does having characters "call out" their social critiques make for good storytelling?
None. But I did get a glimpse at her yardstick which, though not particularly well-decorated, seemed to me to measure something.DarkImbecile wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:50 pmAnd by what yardstick are you judging whether Bong has been "adequately" explicit in his criticism?
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So, you think it might be possible that someone out there could sympathize with the idea that the characters and director are insufficiently explicit in their social criticism, but at the same time you suspect that no one would think that doing so would make for good storytelling. Accurate?
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I would say that any "social criticism" in this film is almost totally uninsightful and poorly focused (but won't venture a guess at Bong's sincerity).
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Criterion is *owned* by disney (why do you think every single insufferable thing made by wes anderson is part of the Criterion Collection? w anderson is a very rich trust fund baby with relatives/friends in serious positions of power within disney). I doubt there’ll ever be a Criterion release of ['A Hidden Life']. disney has no respect at all for Malick nor for the film.
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Wes Anderson is a 50 year old man with his own fruitful career, at what point are you no longer a "trust fund baby"
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'Rediculous' Customer & Critic Reviews
In that writer’s defense, “trust fund middle-aged man” seems even more demeaning to Anderson.
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u know how old man go with trust funding
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She said similar shit about PTA a couple of months back, with the classic straw man of people only pretending to "like" his movies.
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I really didn't need to read that, but to counter my anger at this person's existence and voice being heard, at least it's one of those "man I'm glad I'm 'me'" moments
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OK mfunk but you really should watch at least Boy before you write Waititi off completely
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Too kind.
Sure! I'm not opposed to coming around on just about anybody but that's besides the point here.
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She goes on to explain that she fell asleep during The Grand Budapest Hotel, which she tried to watch on a plane. Not sure why someone being an out & out insincere troll is treated as any kind of cultural critic, but there ya go, a half a million followers later and suddenly your opinion matters to people
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Maybe people just support her plea to get rid of Nazis
- swo17
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I can see some similarity between the two directors. Anderson means a lot more to me, and some of Waititi's comedies certainly aren't even aiming for nuance and character, but I think his New Zealand-set films are at least working in that same space. Granted, I haven't seen Jojo Rabbit yet, and don't know if that might prompt me to retroactively hate him
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I agree with that, and I did see Jojo Rabbit and thought it was the worst of his films by a margin, though the "substance" and "character" assignments should still be reversed in that Twitter convo despite my appreciation for aspects of those NZ films
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Re: writing Waititi off completely - he should probably stop trying to ape Wes Anderson and Robert Yeoman's body of work so flagrantly if he doesn't want to develop his quickly growing reputation as "Wes Anderson for idiots," which is how I saw it put earlier today in reference to the above tweets
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I haven't seen Jojo yet, but literally none of his other films could be described that way whatsoever and shows that uninformed criticism is a two way street. If anything he's closer to a PG John Waters or Peter Jackson.
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I don't think they're that similar stylistically--it's more the sense of humor and obviously the whole sense of children acting like adults and adults acting like children
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Eagle Vs. Shark? (I mean, I found it quite sweet, but it is extremely derivative of a whole strand of quirky American indie cinema bubbling around Anderson.)
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Like you say that's, at best, adjacent. I'd actually argue it as much closer to something like the Duplass brothers.
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The similarities in Jojo Rabbit - in costuming, cinematography, camera movement, dialogue delivery, and set decoration are striking. Not trying to imply he's got only one speed, or even that it's wrong to be influenced by another filmmaker's work (as Anderson himself is and everyone who made a film since L'Arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat has been), just that he's definitely trading on it in that instance, and if it's going to be some sort of head to head matchup in bozos like Wilson's eyes, it's very easy to determine who the better filmmaker is on every single level