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Re: 'Rediculous' Customer & Critic Reviews

#4051 Post by knives » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:48 pm

I haven't seen Jojo yet, but literally none of his other films could be described that way whatsoever and shows that uninformed criticism is a two way street. If anything he's closer to a PG John Waters or Peter Jackson.

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#4052 Post by swo17 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:51 pm

I don't think they're that similar stylistically--it's more the sense of humor and obviously the whole sense of children acting like adults and adults acting like children

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#4053 Post by zedz » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:18 pm

knives wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:48 pm
I haven't seen Jojo yet, but literally none of his other films could be described that way whatsoever.
Eagle Vs. Shark? (I mean, I found it quite sweet, but it is extremely derivative of a whole strand of quirky American indie cinema bubbling around Anderson.)

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#4054 Post by knives » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:28 pm

Like you say that's, at best, adjacent. I'd actually argue it as much closer to something like the Duplass brothers.

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#4055 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:34 pm

The similarities in Jojo Rabbit - in costuming, cinematography, camera movement, dialogue delivery, and set decoration are striking. Not trying to imply he's got only one speed, or even that it's wrong to be influenced by another filmmaker's work (as Anderson himself is and everyone who made a film since L'Arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat has been), just that he's definitely trading on it in that instance, and if it's going to be some sort of head to head matchup in bozos like Wilson's eyes, it's very easy to determine who the better filmmaker is on every single level

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#4056 Post by Mr Sausage » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:45 pm

I mean, yes, as much as I enjoy Waititi's films, Anderson is plainly the superior filmmaker. But is it so surprising for someone to feel the opposite? One of the criticisms Anderson's films have always been open to is one of archness and artificiality. There are a lot of people who find his films downright fake and alienating. Waititi's films are conventionally pathos-laden, even sentimental, and exactly the kind of films general audiences would find touching and humane. This is not a ridiculous criticism so much as people's taste falling along conventional lines, just on the other side of the line that people tend to have if they post here.

Basically, I'm not outraged or confused when an outwardly finicky and particular filmmaker loses to someone a bit more populist and crowd-pleasing. Especially when the populist crowd-pleaser makes something as delightful as Hunt for the Wilderpeople

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#4057 Post by Randall Maysin » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:44 am

Here's a good one, this is from the IMDB user reviews for Ermanno Olmi's Genesi: La creazione e il diluvio:
This is a boring movie. I do not know why people are giving it 10 out of 10. This no Dracula. It is so boring. It so badly written. The story line. Awful the only dialogue is Noah has an old doing narration and describing what happens. This is no Dracula. And this no 10 out of 10
Ha!

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#4058 Post by Mr Sausage » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:40 pm

Dracula the novel? Cause that book can be pretty boring.

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#4059 Post by Feego » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:41 pm

I'm thinking they've got to be referring to Coppola's Dracula (which I think is pretty boring, but that's neither here nor there), but it would be hilarious if they're referring to the Argento.

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#4060 Post by The Curious Sofa » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:07 pm

Neil Lumbard wrote:A compelling exploration of homosexuality and morality, Death in Venice is an acclaimed drama from acclaimed filmmaker Luchino Visconti (Senso, The Leopard). Based on the beloved novel by Thomas Mann, the film adapted the beloved storyline for the big screen.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Death-in ... 97/#Review

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#4061 Post by knives » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:27 pm

What's wrong with that excerpt?

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#4062 Post by Cash Flagg » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:37 pm

It's twice as acclaimed and beloved as it should be.

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#4063 Post by Cremildo » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:42 pm

knives wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:27 pm
What's wrong with that excerpt?
The needless repetition of adjectives?

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#4064 Post by Glowingwabbit » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:45 pm

Cremildo wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:42 pm
knives wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:27 pm
What's wrong with that excerpt?
The needless repetition of words?
That doesn't really qualify it as ridiculous. I'm not familiar with the novel or film so I'm a bit confused why it's considered ridiculous.

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#4065 Post by The Curious Sofa » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:47 pm

The writing is awful and I‘d say it’s highly debatable whether Death in Venice is an "exploration of homosexuality and morality".

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#4066 Post by knives » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:55 pm

You can debate it if you'd like, but the film definitely uses homosexuality as a symbolic device and it is reasonable (i.e. has been done since its inception) to read that symbolic usage as related to a sort of moral death of Europe conception.

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#4067 Post by domino harvey » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:56 pm

The terrible writing is terrible writing and the terrible writing is terrible

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#4068 Post by Cremildo » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:02 pm

Glowingwabbit wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:45 pm
That doesn't really qualify it as ridiculous. I'm not familiar with the novel or film so I'm a bit confused why it's considered ridiculous.
One thing our teacher always reminded us of in writing class, as kids, was to not pointlessly repeat words in the same sentence. I'd say it is ridiculous, especially in an official review for a major site.

The excerpt isn't well written whether one is familiar with the film or not.

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#4069 Post by domino harvey » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:12 pm

I get flipped out on myself when I realize I repeated the same qualifier in the same paragraph here, so I’ll admit I may be a bit harder on this because I recognize this tendency within me (though not this bad). But using the same words like this in a sentence is something any editor should have caught... but haven’t we suspected that Blu-Ray.com doesn’t actually have an editor and the pieces pretty much go up as-is?

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#4070 Post by Glowingwabbit » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:14 pm

Cremildo wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:02 pm
Glowingwabbit wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:45 pm
That doesn't really qualify it as ridiculous. I'm not familiar with the novel or film so I'm a bit confused why it's considered ridiculous.
One thing our teacher always reminded us of in writing class, as kids, was to not pointlessly repeat words in the same sentence. I'd say it is ridiculous, especially in an official review for a major site.

The excerpt isn't well written whether one is familiar with the film or not.
No. I get what terrible writing looks like. I went to school as well. I've just seen enough of it in reviews that I think it hardly worth drawing attention to it.

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#4071 Post by aox » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:00 pm

Whoa, that’s terrible from any critical angle.

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#4072 Post by knives » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:44 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:12 pm
I get flipped out on myself when I realize I repeated the same qualifier in the same paragraph here, so I’ll admit I may be a bit harder on this because I recognize this tendency within me (though not this bad). But using the same words like this in a sentence is something any editor should have caught... but haven’t we suspected that Blu-Ray.com doesn’t actually have an editor and the pieces pretty much go up as-is?
I do the same to myself here, but I also treat my writing here with greater care then I would at a place like BR (in fact I just replaced seriously with care here for this very reason). I don't take BR seriously for its writing (as you say it probably has no editor) so as a result I treat bad writing from them the same as I would an Amazon customer review: something to be ignored.

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#4073 Post by Mr Sausage » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:03 pm

Um...if someone wants to call out bad writing in criticism, isn’t this the place to do it? This is our place to vent. I get why someone would call out bad prose—it is rediculous that it gets published, and pointing it out is cathartic.

Criticizing the poster above amounts to asking they put the same stake into things, or lack thereof, as you do, for no other reason than because it’s how you feel. Like, let him vent. We don’t all have to be bothered by the exact same follies.

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#4074 Post by DarkImbecile » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:15 pm

Mr Sausage wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:03 pm
Um...if someone wants to call out bad writing in criticism, isn’t this the place to do it?
Totally agree with Mr. Sausage. Where else can I go to complain when people fail to put a space after an ellipsis?

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#4075 Post by Mr Sausage » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:42 pm

DarkImbecile wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:15 pm
Mr Sausage wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:03 pm
Um...if someone wants to call out bad writing in criticism, isn’t this the place to do it?
Totally agree with Mr. Sausage. Where else can I go to complain when people fail to put a space after an ellipsis?
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