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#1 Post by domino harvey » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:11 pm

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SCUM
(Alan Clarke, 1979)
Release date: 24 June 2019
Limited Blu-ray Edition


After the banning of their original 1977 BBC TV version, director Alan Clarke (The Firm) and writer Phil Minton (Funny Farm) set out to remake their drama for the big screen to ensure that their vision got the audience it deserved. The resulting film, released here in a special Blu-ray edition to mark its 40th anniversary, was an even more vitriolic portrait of a corrupt and violent institution which stunned cinema audiences and caused outrage.

Uncompromising in its depiction of everyday violence, retribution, suicide and sexual assault, Scum remains a cornerstone of the British realist cinema movement, and a savage and still shocking indictment of institutionalised violence and abuse.

INDICATOR LIMITED EDITION BLU-RAY SPECIAL FEATURES:
• 2013 2K restoration from the original negatives, newly re-graded and approved by cinematographer Phil Méheux
• Original mono audio
• Audio commentary with actor Ray Winstone and film critic Nigel Floyd (2006)
• Interview with actor Mick Ford (2019)
• Interview with actor Ray Burdis (2019)
• Interview with actor Perry Benson (2019)
• Interview with cinematographer Phil Méheux (2019)
• Interviews with association producer Martin Campbell (2019)
• Interview with producer Don Boyd (2019)
• Interview with editor Michael Bradsell (2019)
• Cast Memories (2005): featuring interviews with Phil Daniels and Julian Firth
• Archival interview with writer Roy Minton and producer Clive Parsons (2004)
• Archival interview with writer Roy Minton (2005)
• Archival interview with producers Davina Belling and Clive Parsons (2005)
• Archival interview with producer Don Boyd (2005)
• Original ‘U’ and ‘X’ certificate theatrical trailers
• Image gallery: on-set and promotional photography
• New and improved English subtitles for the deaf and hard-of-hearing
• Limited edition exclusive booklet with a new essay by Ashley Clark, recollections from cast and crew members, archival interviews with Alan Clarke, an extract from writer Roy Minton’s novelisation, a look at Mary Whitehouse’s High Court case over the film’s television broadcast, an overview of contemporary critical responses, archival articles, and film credits
• Limited Edition of 5,000 copies
• All extras subject to change

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BBFC cert: 18
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#2 Post by Boosmahn » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:05 pm

I was thinking of buying the Kino version just yesterday. Good thing I held off...

A phenomenal extra would be the TV broadcast version, but I wouldn't hold it against Indicator if they can't include it.

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#3 Post by M Sanderson » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:30 am

is this in the works? new restoration? don't Odeon still have it?

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#5 Post by rapta » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:52 am

M Sanderson wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:30 am
is this in the works? new restoration? don't Odeon still have it?
Licensed via Screenbound/Odeon it seems, as are No Orchids for Miss Blandish and Black Joy (I think).

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#6 Post by MichaelB » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:05 am

It's worth noting that there's a big production-team overlap between this new edition of Scum and the BFI's massive Alan Clarke box (Sam Dunn, David Mackenzie, John Robertson, Nick Wrigley), and I'm very happy to confirm that similar curatorial standards will be maintained throughout.

And while I didn't work on the BFI box, I've been a Clarke fan for nearly four decades, so hopefully I won't let the side down.

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#7 Post by Big Ben » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:22 am

I picked up a rather lackluster version some time ago and well I'm looking forward to seeing it again. I suppose her name is a bit of a joke to me as an American but I get a chuckle whenever I see Mary Whitehouse's name because she feels like such an artifact of that time period. Granted I know of her mostly from her bizarre crusade against Dr. Who (Baffling!) but the old Blu-Ray I have of this film has a brief section of Whitehouse's lambasting of the TV version and eventual loss in court and it reminded me of how utterly strange her whole deal was. Pleased to see more quality Clarke though, I'll certainly be picking this up.

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#8 Post by domino harvey » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:10 pm

It’s happened again! As with 2018’s limited edition release of NIGHT OF THE DEMON, we have been stunned by the number of pre-orders for our 24 June 2019 release of SCUM.

Due to the high levels of demand, we are increasing the # of the limited edition to 8,000 copies. Thank you very much for your pre-orders and your continued support!

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#9 Post by Boosmahn » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:00 pm

^ That's nice to hear. I'm not sure why this one is such a big seller, though; Kino's version only came out in 2013.

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#10 Post by domino harvey » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:07 pm

I suspect that unlike Night of the Demon, sales here might be strongly reflective of the large UK audience for the movie

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#11 Post by MichaelB » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:45 am

Boosmahn wrote:^ That's nice to hear. I'm not sure why this one is such a big seller, though; Kino's version only came out in 2013.
Not in the UK.

And even if far more people imported discs than is in fact the case, the Indicator is a much more lavish package.

I’m not sure how much people outside the UK appreciate the size of this film’s local cult following.

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#12 Post by DavyGallagher » Wed May 01, 2019 9:33 am

domino harvey wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:07 pm
I suspect that unlike Night of the Demon, sales here might be strongly reflective of the large UK audience for the movie
It's certainly a very well known film in the UK but I'd also suggest that unlike when the previous Odeon release came out, there's now - thanks to the BFI set - a lot more awareness of Alan Clarke as a filmaker, rather than just "the guy who directed....".

Add in the Indicator collectors buying the lot, the fans of the film in general wanting the best edition and the overseas customers wanting something more definitive than the Kino, which came and went with little fanfare given Scum not being a big title in the US, and I think it's understandable why this is selling strongly.

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#13 Post by HitchcockLang » Fri May 03, 2019 10:04 am

Any hopes that the original television play may make it onto the disc as a last minute addition or does some rights or other hang-up prevent such an eventuality?

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#14 Post by swo17 » Fri May 03, 2019 10:08 am

It's in the BFI set

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#15 Post by MichaelB » Fri May 03, 2019 10:10 am

Indeed, and of course the BFI will still have the UK video rights tied up for many more years (the Alan Clarke box only came out in 2016), so it was never even the tiniest possibility.

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#16 Post by HitchcockLang » Fri May 03, 2019 10:16 am

Fair enough. Thanks for the info swo and MichaelB. Unfortunately, that set is region B locked and (regardless of how supposedly easy and affordable it is), I am not equipped for all regions. Even if I were, that set is a little pricey given my lack of knowledge about Alan Clarke in general. Still preordered what looks to be another lovingly produced release from Indicator in order to dip my toe in the Clarke pool.

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#17 Post by MichaelB » Fri May 03, 2019 10:21 am

The irony here is that if Indicator had managed to license the BBC play, they'd have been required to region-lock the entire package!

(Sadly, the Blu-ray spec doesn't allow for selective region-locking, so if just one item on the disc is contractually required to be region-locked, that means that the whole disc has to be.)

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#18 Post by swo17 » Fri May 03, 2019 10:33 am

Honestly the BFI set is the main course and this Indicator release (stacked as it is) is comparably a salad fork

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#19 Post by Ogre Kovacs » Sat May 04, 2019 2:10 pm

Incredibly excited for this release as I believe it is the last Clarke that is not lost that I have not seen (having recently tied up loose ends in the form of The Gold Robbers and The Edwardians episodes). I was about to pull the trigger on the Kino blu when rumors of the Indicator popped up. Glad I held off.

The BFI box set was a revelation and one of those rare moments where a blind buy (thanks to this forum for the enthusiasm and discussion up to its release that pushed to take the plunge) resulted in not only seeing an excellent film (which is common) but introducing a director and so many films that quickly became some of my all time favorites. Going through the box for me was wonderful discovery after wonderful discovery with so many of the films just leaving my jaw on the floor feeling drained and stunned. I can't recommend it enough.

For HitchcockLang and others who are region locked, if you are looking to see some more Clarke to get a better idea of his work without the investment of a region locked boxed set, the Made In Britain and The Firm are fairly well available but there's also The Edwardians series (of which Clarke's contribution of the Horatio Bottomly episode is excellent) on DVD from BBC Video which shows more breadth of what Clarke was capable of beyond the angry, violent men of his most well known work (which is overly generalizing these films and not intended as a dismal on my part as they are incredible). It is currently cheap second hand on Amazon . The quality is watchable--it has some strange movement occasionally that might be a result of PAL->NTSC or just video in general (I'm kind of bad about these technical details).

Unfortunately for the region locked, I have to believe that the vast majority of Clarke's catalog will never see the light of day outside of Region B including some of his best in my opinion--The Hallelujah Handshake, Under the Age, Penda’s Fen, Diane, Beloved Enemy, Contact, Christine. The best reason I know of to make the move, but I am not looking to preach or convert anyone on this issue.

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#20 Post by M Sanderson » Sun May 05, 2019 10:01 am

I much prefer this version especially for Mick Ford’s interpretation of Archer.

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#21 Post by MichaelB » Sun May 05, 2019 10:04 am

The plan was for David Threlfall to repeat the part, and he was apparently up for it, but he'd just signed a contract with the Royal Shakespeare Company and so couldn't do it.

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#22 Post by MichaelB » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:42 pm

Beaver:
An intensely uncompromising and impacting film experience and the Indicator Blu-ray advances on every area (video/audio/extras).

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#23 Post by M Sanderson » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:33 am

How different in terms of A/V is this from the solid Odeon Entertainment version from a few years back?

Regardless, whether it's a new scan or a tighter encode of the same remaster, I'm still all over this version.

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#24 Post by MichaelB » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:13 am

Same source master, but it’s been given a going-over by cinematographer Phil Meheux prior to a David Mackenzie encode.

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#25 Post by M Sanderson » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:47 am

Excellent, looking forward to it

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