International Blu-ray discs
- Aunt Peg
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The Italian Blu Ray of Happy as Lazzaro has English subtitles for anyone interested.
- A Tempted Christ
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Apparently it hasn't been discussed anywhere in this forum, but the 4K restoration of Paris, Texas is out in Germany by ArtHaus. They're also releasing the 4K restorations of Wings of Desire and Until the End of the World. It's region locked, but if you have a region-free player, you're in for a treat.
- feihong
- Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:20 pm
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Picked up a bunch of Hong Kong blu rays recently, and while things are never great, there are some interesting developments with some of these discs. A few Hong Kong companies have been getting into the market with older titles that are not just the standard Fortune Star upscales.
Panorama has stepped forward with some interesting older titles. I bought Tsui Hark's Wicked City and Ringo Lam's School on Fire. Wicked City has some intermittent DNR, but it often looks very sharp and there is an unusual amount of visible grain for a Hong Kong disc. The source for the disc looks like a damaged negative or a damaged print, which if anything makes it more of a grindhouse-like experience watching the film. It's really fun to see the picture––I forgot Tasuya Nakadai was in it, doing his damndest to invest his role with Hong Kong style energy. You can see film grain at all times in School on Fire––though the grain is a little softer than one feels it could be. Both pictures look like true HD, and neither film has ever looked anything close to this good on home video.
Then I got a few discs from CN Entertainment: Tsui Hark's The Chinese Feast, and Ringo Lam's Victim, Full Contact, and Wild Search. They all look like true hi-def transfers, but there's a big range of DNR going on with these titles. Victim, the earliest release, is the worst offender. It looks soupy and loses most detail. Full Contact has much more intermittent noise reduction, with a lot of sharp edges. In general it looks really good. Wild Search is the best of the bunch, with lots of visible grain. It's the only CN edition that is truly beautiful. There is a little noise reduction, but by and large the image looks pretty unadulterated. It was stunning to see late 80s Hong Kong in hi def in this film. I hadn't seen the film in years, and I realized with a shock I didn't really know who Ku Feng was when I first saw the movie. It was a delight to see him play the father character. The latest release, The Chinese Feast, has a very even and consistent level of DNR. It never looks as good as Wild Search does, but it never looks as bad as Victim. It's still way better than the film has looked on home video before this, and what's more, the version of the film on the disc is the one that includes the Zhao wen Zhuo/Hung Yan Yan fight scene. I'd never seen that scene before––it isn't a great fight, but it's pretty cool to finally see. I believe in previous editions I'd seen the credits feature a montage of scenes from the film. In this version it ends with Leslie Cheung giving a toast to all of the cast and crew. You can see Tsui Hark toasting into the camera in the midst of tons of people. I didn't think to mention it earlier, but Full Contact has the classic electric guitar score, unlike the old Columbia/Tristar DVD someone accused me of sinking on another forum, years ago.
Of course, the quality of these discs doesn't match what 88 Films did with Miracles, or what Eureka is doing with the Sammo Hung and King Hu films, but it's great to see some of these awesome HK New Wave movies with a bigger, brighter, more steady picture. The experience seems better than it's ever been. I Hope CN and especially Panorama are able to pick up more of the titles that haven't had the Kam&Ronson/Fortune Star treatment so far. Movies like The Mission and The Blade haven't appeared yet. A good blu ray of either of those, or of Teresa Woo's Iron Angels, would be so great. CN's next films are Tsui Hark's The Raid and Chang Cheh's The Shanghai 13.
Panorama has stepped forward with some interesting older titles. I bought Tsui Hark's Wicked City and Ringo Lam's School on Fire. Wicked City has some intermittent DNR, but it often looks very sharp and there is an unusual amount of visible grain for a Hong Kong disc. The source for the disc looks like a damaged negative or a damaged print, which if anything makes it more of a grindhouse-like experience watching the film. It's really fun to see the picture––I forgot Tasuya Nakadai was in it, doing his damndest to invest his role with Hong Kong style energy. You can see film grain at all times in School on Fire––though the grain is a little softer than one feels it could be. Both pictures look like true HD, and neither film has ever looked anything close to this good on home video.
Then I got a few discs from CN Entertainment: Tsui Hark's The Chinese Feast, and Ringo Lam's Victim, Full Contact, and Wild Search. They all look like true hi-def transfers, but there's a big range of DNR going on with these titles. Victim, the earliest release, is the worst offender. It looks soupy and loses most detail. Full Contact has much more intermittent noise reduction, with a lot of sharp edges. In general it looks really good. Wild Search is the best of the bunch, with lots of visible grain. It's the only CN edition that is truly beautiful. There is a little noise reduction, but by and large the image looks pretty unadulterated. It was stunning to see late 80s Hong Kong in hi def in this film. I hadn't seen the film in years, and I realized with a shock I didn't really know who Ku Feng was when I first saw the movie. It was a delight to see him play the father character. The latest release, The Chinese Feast, has a very even and consistent level of DNR. It never looks as good as Wild Search does, but it never looks as bad as Victim. It's still way better than the film has looked on home video before this, and what's more, the version of the film on the disc is the one that includes the Zhao wen Zhuo/Hung Yan Yan fight scene. I'd never seen that scene before––it isn't a great fight, but it's pretty cool to finally see. I believe in previous editions I'd seen the credits feature a montage of scenes from the film. In this version it ends with Leslie Cheung giving a toast to all of the cast and crew. You can see Tsui Hark toasting into the camera in the midst of tons of people. I didn't think to mention it earlier, but Full Contact has the classic electric guitar score, unlike the old Columbia/Tristar DVD someone accused me of sinking on another forum, years ago.
Of course, the quality of these discs doesn't match what 88 Films did with Miracles, or what Eureka is doing with the Sammo Hung and King Hu films, but it's great to see some of these awesome HK New Wave movies with a bigger, brighter, more steady picture. The experience seems better than it's ever been. I Hope CN and especially Panorama are able to pick up more of the titles that haven't had the Kam&Ronson/Fortune Star treatment so far. Movies like The Mission and The Blade haven't appeared yet. A good blu ray of either of those, or of Teresa Woo's Iron Angels, would be so great. CN's next films are Tsui Hark's The Raid and Chang Cheh's The Shanghai 13.
- tenia
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I don't know about Wicked City but I've seen a few caps of School on Fire on blu-ray.com's board, and it looks absolutely awful. It definitely resembles a SD upscale anyway and by the look of it, it seems that Panorama originally expected getting a better uncut master but ended up with a subpar censored one. It also seems the English subtitles aren't very good.
The following HK movies are rumored to be or have been restored : The Secret (1979), C’est la vie, mon chéri (1993), Made in Hong Kong (1997), and of course A Better Tomorrow (1986). Also, from elsewhere in Asia : After the Curfew (1954, Indonesia), Santi-Vina (1954, Thailand), Stage Sisters (1964, China), Batch '81 (1982, Philippines), Sultan Mahmud Mangkat Dijulang (1961, Singapour) and Mee Pok Man (1995, Singapour).
The Secret has been released on BD in HK in 2019, and Made in Hong Kong in 2018, both based on the new restorations.
Ronny Yu's Bride with White Hair (1993) has also just been restored in 4K and will get a French BD release in February 2019. Lonely Fifteen is getting a new restoration in Paris (2K, I believe) and should get its French BD release in April 2019.
I don't think any of the 6 movies you're mentioning have been restored any time recently, hence the result.
I however read that Yu's The Saviour (1980) HD master looks very good. I don't know if it's been released on BD yet, though.
The following HK movies are rumored to be or have been restored : The Secret (1979), C’est la vie, mon chéri (1993), Made in Hong Kong (1997), and of course A Better Tomorrow (1986). Also, from elsewhere in Asia : After the Curfew (1954, Indonesia), Santi-Vina (1954, Thailand), Stage Sisters (1964, China), Batch '81 (1982, Philippines), Sultan Mahmud Mangkat Dijulang (1961, Singapour) and Mee Pok Man (1995, Singapour).
The Secret has been released on BD in HK in 2019, and Made in Hong Kong in 2018, both based on the new restorations.
Ronny Yu's Bride with White Hair (1993) has also just been restored in 4K and will get a French BD release in February 2019. Lonely Fifteen is getting a new restoration in Paris (2K, I believe) and should get its French BD release in April 2019.
I don't think any of the 6 movies you're mentioning have been restored any time recently, hence the result.
I however read that Yu's The Saviour (1980) HD master looks very good. I don't know if it's been released on BD yet, though.
- The Fanciful Norwegian
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The Better Tomorrow restoration (which was done by Ritrovata) was released by Fortune Star in 2016 as part of their "4K Ultra HD Remastered Collection" (which, despite the name, is BD-only). From what I can tell, the other titles in that line are the four Bruce Lee movies, the first three in the Once Upon a Time in China series, the first two Police Stories, and Johnnie To's Throw Down. There are also 4K Ritrovata restorations of the early Brigitte Lin vehicle Outside the Window (1973) and Tao Jin's Diary of a Nurse (1957), plus recent 4K restorations of Huang Shuqin's Soul of a Painter (1993), The Adventures of Sanmao the Waif (1949), and, uh, The Birth of New China (1989) that were apparently restored in China. A 4K copy of Huang Jianzhong's My 1919 (1999) has popped up online, but I don't know if that's a true 4K restoration or what. Not holding my breath for these to get Blu-ray releases.tenia wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:02 amThe following HK movies are rumored to be or have been restored : The Secret (1979), C’est la vie, mon chéri (1993), Made in Hong Kong (1997), and of course A Better Tomorrow (1986). Also, from elsewhere in Asia : After the Curfew (1954, Indonesia), Santi-Vina (1954, Thailand), Stage Sisters (1964, China), Batch '81 (1982, Philippines), Sultan Mahmud Mangkat Dijulang (1961, Singapour) and Mee Pok Man (1995, Singapour).
The Secret has been released on BD in HK in 2019, and Made in Hong Kong in 2018, both based on the new restorations.
- tenia
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Thanks for the additionnal info. I'm aware of most of those since they surfaced in heavily advertised releases or festivals, but weren't aware of the ones you mentioned in your second lists (Lin, Jin, etc).
Of all these, it seems Throw Down got a K&R BD release, also in their "4K UHD remastered" collection despite only being a BD. I hope it's not as Ritrovata-ed as A Better Tomorrow... EDIT : it doesn't look like it. Pfew.
Of all these, it seems Throw Down got a K&R BD release, also in their "4K UHD remastered" collection despite only being a BD. I hope it's not as Ritrovata-ed as A Better Tomorrow... EDIT : it doesn't look like it. Pfew.
- Aunt Peg
- Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:30 am
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The Italian Blu Ray of Marco Bellocchio's The Traitor (2019) is available with English subtitles.
The Canadian Blu Ray of Denys Arcand's The Fall of the American Empire (2018) is available with English subtitles.
Sony hold the rights in the US to the above titles as well as Laszlo's Nemes' Sunset (2018) which like the Arcand film has yet to make a physical media appearance in the U.S.
The Canadian Blu Ray of Denys Arcand's The Fall of the American Empire (2018) is available with English subtitles.
Sony hold the rights in the US to the above titles as well as Laszlo's Nemes' Sunset (2018) which like the Arcand film has yet to make a physical media appearance in the U.S.
- senseabove
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Looks like Bonello's L'Apollonide/House of Tolerance had a Russian blu-ray release (in 2016?!), which I only discovered because an HD rip finally popped up.
From what I gather it's relatively difficult to import from Russia, and it doesn't have English subtitles anyway, but I was surprised I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere else (and that an HD rip didn't surface sooner...). Can't say it looks the best, compression-wise, but at least it's HD...
From what I gather it's relatively difficult to import from Russia, and it doesn't have English subtitles anyway, but I was surprised I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere else (and that an HD rip didn't surface sooner...). Can't say it looks the best, compression-wise, but at least it's HD...
- RobertB
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Re: International Blu-ray discs
Bo Wideberg's film Mannen på taket (The Man on the Roof) will be released on Blu-Ray by Sudio S in Sweden. I contacted them and the person who replied said there will be English subtitles. She did not know what extras there will be. The date for the release is April 29, and it's a new restoration.
- FrauBlucher
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- The Fanciful Norwegian
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There's a trailer here. Always risky to judge a transfer from a Youtube upload, but the softness of the image comports with what I've read about the 2017 Italian Blu-ray. Mosfilm's website says the movie was restored in 2010, but the earliest reference I can find to any digital screenings is 2016. The Mosfilm restoration used to be on Youtube in its entirety, but not anymore, it seems.
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Coin de Mire Cinéma, a French DVD/Blu outfit, has a nice line in restored 40s-60s French films, often starring Jean Gabin. For Non Coupable (1947) there is a "fin alternative". Le Diable et les Dix Commandements (1960) is available in its full 145-min. version. Only French subs, or so it seems, for titles in the collection.
Titles and often extensive info on restoration work:
https://coindemirecinema.com/nos-films
Titles and often extensive info on restoration work:
https://coindemirecinema.com/nos-films
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Louis Jouvet fans may be intrigued to see him play in comedy/melodrama register in Les Amoureux Sont Seuls au Monde (Decoin, 1947):
https://www.avoir-alire.com/les-amoureu ... st-blu-ray - described as a "comedie du remariage", shades of Stanley Cavell
https://www.on-mag.fr/index.php/video-h ... ray-et-dvd
The film is restored and out on a Pathé Blu+DVD with English subs; a producer-mandated "fin optimiste" is included as a bonus.
https://www.avoir-alire.com/les-amoureu ... st-blu-ray - described as a "comedie du remariage", shades of Stanley Cavell
https://www.on-mag.fr/index.php/video-h ... ray-et-dvd
The film is restored and out on a Pathé Blu+DVD with English subs; a producer-mandated "fin optimiste" is included as a bonus.
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
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English-restricted viewers should consider it a blessingStefan Andersson wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:46 pmLe Diable et les Dix Commandements (1960) is available in its full 145-min. version. Only French subs, or so it seems.
- Lowry_Sam
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2018? I went back to my receipts & see that I purchased the 25th anniversary edition blu-ray back in 2013 (and amazon.ca states it was first available in 2011). I also picked up Barbarian Invasions & Polytechnique (which also have English subtitles) for $36(Canadian).
- The Fanciful Norwegian
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The Fall of the American Empire is a different film (Arcand's most recent). At the time it seemed like it came and went without leaving any impression, and this kinda bears that out...
- Lowry_Sam
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Oops, hadnt noticed the slight title change (& havent taken much notice of any of his more recent output too for that matter). So is this a sequel to Decline?
- willoneill
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It's not related, no (other than the blatant title callback)
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Isn't "L'Apollonide" also available in Blu-Ray in Germany ?senseabove wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:26 amLooks like Bonello's L'Apollonide/House of Tolerance had a Russian blu-ray release (in 2016?!), which I only discovered because an HD rip finally popped up.
From what I gather it's relatively difficult to import from Russia, and it doesn't have English subtitles anyway, but I was surprised I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere else (and that an HD rip didn't surface sooner...). Can't say it looks the best, compression-wise, but at least it's HD...
There's a lot of interesting titles which are not available elsewhere in Germany. Recently I bought "Dogville" (excellent HD transfer) and "Curiosia".
- senseabove
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I don't see any evidence of one, but if you find one, share a link!Rupert Pupkin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:15 pmIsn't "L'Apollonide" also available in Blu-Ray in Germany ?
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sorry I think I made a confusion with another BR available with Hafsia Herzi...senseabove wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:30 pmI don't see any evidence of one, but if you find one, share a link!Rupert Pupkin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:15 pmIsn't "L'Apollonide" also available in Blu-Ray in Germany ?
Like you I had discover that a blu-ray was "around" thanks to a BR rip... (is the ratio of the Russian Blu-Ray the original ratio ? Because, oddly Russia is the only country which released one of the best French movies of the last 3 years on Blu-Ray "Une Jeune Femme"; but they zoomed the original ratio (thus cropping top/bottom right and left of the screen - the original theatrical ratio was 1:66 (like the good old François Truffaut or French movies from the seventies, whereas the BR Russian is 1:85). In France, only a WEB 1080 release was released; too bad for the stunning photography.
https://www.golddisk.ru/goods/121000.html
- tenia
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Just watched it and yes, French SDH subs only, and yes, out of 145 min and 8 sketches, about 2 of them only are vaguely OK, the rest of the movie seemingly never knowing if it wants to be funny or dramatic, and ends up being nothing at all.domino harvey wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:11 pmEnglish-restricted viewers should consider it a blessingStefan Andersson wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:46 pmLe Diable et les Dix Commandements (1960) is available in its full 145-min. version. Only French subs, or so it seems.
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I'm looking desperately for "La Naissance des Pieuvres aka Water Lilies" (Adèle Haenel first movie with Céline Sciamma). I happened to find recently a WEB 1080 rip which looks quite nice in comparison to the French DVD (more details, etc...)- this would be a very good choice for another movie by C.Sciamma (more than "Gang de filles")-
I have searched everywhere : at amazon.co.uk; de (generally in Germany some good surprises can find there such as "Curiosia" with Noémie Merlant from "Portrait de La Jeune Fille En Feu)", but I did not find a blu-ray. (I think that Noémie should have been a price for her role in "Portrait..." because she is absolutely mesmerizing - "it takes two to dance a tango".)
Any hint ?
in Belgium sometimes some movies are released there on Blu-Ray ("Le Fidèle" for instance with "another" Adèle (but really more than "another")
in the meantime, a great short movie with Grégoire Leprince-Ringuet aka "2 de tension" was included on the great Eustachien movie (stunning digital black & white photography) "Mes Provinciales" (released on blu-ray by Kino! (nothing at all in France) (oddly this discussion between 2 potential lovers about movies makes me think what is from Adèle's character or what is from the "real" Adèle about movie taste) - to sum up quickly oddy and physically Grégoire looks like Dawson (yes the TV series).
I have searched everywhere : at amazon.co.uk; de (generally in Germany some good surprises can find there such as "Curiosia" with Noémie Merlant from "Portrait de La Jeune Fille En Feu)", but I did not find a blu-ray. (I think that Noémie should have been a price for her role in "Portrait..." because she is absolutely mesmerizing - "it takes two to dance a tango".)
Any hint ?
in Belgium sometimes some movies are released there on Blu-Ray ("Le Fidèle" for instance with "another" Adèle (but really more than "another")



in the meantime, a great short movie with Grégoire Leprince-Ringuet aka "2 de tension" was included on the great Eustachien movie (stunning digital black & white photography) "Mes Provinciales" (released on blu-ray by Kino! (nothing at all in France) (oddly this discussion between 2 potential lovers about movies makes me think what is from Adèle's character or what is from the "real" Adèle about movie taste) - to sum up quickly oddy and physically Grégoire looks like Dawson (yes the TV series).
- The Fanciful Norwegian
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I can't find any evidence this was ever released on Blu. Blu-ray was still a new format in 2007 and this I don't think this is the sort of movie that would normally have received a BD release at the time. I wouldn't be surprised if it got one in the future, but for now there's no physical HD source that I see.Rupert Pupkin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:21 pmI'm looking desperately for "La Naissance des Pieuvres aka Water Lilies" (Adèle Haenel first movie with Céline Sciamma). I happened to find recently a WEB 1080 rip which looks quite nice in comparison to the French DVD (more details, etc...)- this would be a very good choice for another movie by C.Sciamma (more than "Gang de filles")-
I have searched everywhere : at amazon.co.uk; de (generally in Germany some good surprises can find there such as "Curiosia" with Noémie Merlant from "Portrait de La Jeune Fille En Feu)", but I did not find a blu-ray. (I think that Noémie should have been a price for her role in "Portrait..." because she is absolutely mesmerizing - "it takes two to dance a tango".)